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20 Court Reporter: HARRY RAPAPORT, CSR
United States District Court
21 Two Uniondale Avenue
Uniondale, New York 11553
22 (516) 485-6558
23
Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography, transcript
24 produced by Computer-Assisted Transcription
25

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1 M O R N I N G S E S S I O N
2
3 (Whereupon, the following takes place in the
4 absence of the jury.)
5 THE COURT: Mr. Trabulus, you wanted to see me?
6 MR. TRABULUS: Yes, your Honor. I wanted to
7 raise a matter that came up yesterday in the questioning
8 of Mr. Ackerman. If you remember, I sought to question

9 Mr. Ackerman on some of his grand jury testimony which I

10 regarded as inconsistent and your Honor regarded as
11 otherwise.
12 I would like to renew my application to question
13 him about it, and not on that basis. But his recollection
14 was refreshed on direct examination with that grand jury
15 testimony. And that's something which, frankly, I simply
16 forgot to mention to your Honor at the point, and that
17 appeared on page 1403. He was directed to that particular
18 grand jury testimony. He was asked to look at pages 20 to
19 23 on the grand jury testimony, and I was going to
20 question him with regard to a portion of that.
21 I think on the basis that he refreshed his
22 testimony on the witness stand on direct, and I ought to
23 be able to question him specifically as to what he said he
24 was reading.
25 THE COURT: I am lost completely.

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1 MR. TRABULUS: Mr. Ackerman refreshed his
2 recollection --
3 THE COURT: What did he say that was
4 inconsistent?
5 MR. TRABULUS: He said on page 20 of his grand
6 jury testimony with his 3500-5-A, and beginning at line
7 20.
8 Question: Now, did Mr. Gordon ever tell you
9 that, for example, he owed the IRS a lot of money
10 personally?
11 Answer: He once indicated to me in a
12 conversation to my recall that he owed the IRS money from
13 prior years.
14 Question: Did he say anything else regarding
15 that? Do you recall the context in which it came up?
16 Answer: The context in which it came up was

17 because I asked him to the best of my recall, I said why
18 did you do the transfers, what was going on and was it
19 Reed.
20 He said, I wasn't scared of Reed. I never was
21 scared of Reed. I never thought that Reed was going to
22 win the judgment, and I think he mentioned that he owed
23 taxes. That's the portion that was included within what
24 he was asked to refresh his recollection with. I am not
25 saying I would necessarily question him about it today if

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1 your Honor permits me, but I would like permission to do
2 so.
3 THE COURT: What is inconsistent with what he has
4 testified to yesterday at the trial? I don't understand
5 that.
6 MR. TRABULUS: When he testified at the trial, he
7 didn't say I think. The point is he was asked this in the
8 grand jury. He was asked the context in which the
9 conversation came up about owing the IRS money. And he
10 said, well, we had a conversation about the transfers, and

11 I think that's when he mentioned he owed taxes. And I
12 think he was more definite, he was more definite --
13 THE COURT: I will let you say, didn't you say I
14 think he said that. That's what you want to bring out?
15 MR. TRABULUS: Yes.
16 THE COURT: All right. I will let you bring that
17 out.
18 I have to make a phone call, and we will start
19 shortly.
20 (Whereupon, at this time there was a pause in the
21 proceedings.)
22 THE COURT: Yes, Mr. Neville.
23 MR. NEVILLE: I wanted to ask the Court if it is
24 possible, when you speak to the jury sometimes, we can't
25 hear you too well in the back. I was wondering if you

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1 could raise your voice a little or use a microphone, just
2 the moments when you speak to the jury.
3 THE COURT: I will not use the microphone. But I
4 will raise my voice.

5 MR. NEVILLE: As long as you don't yell at me
6 when you raise your voice.
7 THE COURT: I will never do that.
8 MR. NEVILLE: A little later the lawyers will
9 talk about the Friday schedule perhaps. Some of us have
10 some things.
11 THE COURT: At a break we can discuss it.
12 (Whereupon, the jury at this time entered the
13 courtroom.)
14
15 N E I L A C K E R M A N,
16 called as a witness, having been previously
17 duly sworn, was examined and testified as
18 follows:
19
20 THE COURT: Good morning, members of the jury.
21 Please be seated.

22 Again I want to thank you for your punctuality,
23 your sense of responsibility, your dedication. I am going
24 to have to look in the book and get some more words
25 because you have been doing a great job. I must apologize

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1 for keeping you waiting. It was entirely my fault. I had
2 some other matters on. And at the last minute I had to
3 take care of something.
4 I want to assure you that the lawyers and the
5 parties were all here on time as you were. It was the
6 Court that caused the delay.
7 Also, I am told that occasionally, because of
8 noise in the back of the courtroom my voice is not
9 carrying to all parts of the courtroom. So I will have to
10 talk louder. Slower I always talk, but louder.
11 You may proceed.

12 You have been previously sworn and you are under
13 oath, Mr. Ackerman. You understand that?
14 THE WITNESS: Yes, I am.
15 THE COURT: How am I doing back there? You hear
16 me now.
17 MR. NEVILLE: Beautiful, Judge.
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19 CROSS-EXAMINATION (cont'd)
20 BY MR. TRABULUS:
21 Q Good morning, Mr . Ackerman.
22 A Good morning.
23 Q You have Exhibit 646 in front of you?
24 A Yes.
25 Q And that's the statement your firm prepared?

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Ackerman-cross/Trabulus


1 A Rivkin Radler and Kremer, yes.
2 Q Right, your firm at the time?
3 A Yes.
4 Q And I think you testified on direct examination that
5 that covered the period June through December 30th, of
6 1994; do you recall that?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Take a look at it again, and see whether in fact it
9 covers just August through December, 1994. Some of it is
10 hard to read. Look at the first page.
11 A The first page says 8 instead of 6.
12 Q So that would be August?
13 A Yes, that's correct.
14 Q And during this time period, that's a two month time
15 period?
16 A Yes.

17 Q The bill for services, and I am leaving out the
18 disbursements or expenses, but the bill for services was
19 somewhat in excess of $51,000; was it not?
20 A Yes.
21 Q And that represented a total of 297.7 hours of time
22 spent by attorneys and paralegals at your firm, correct,
23 at the Rivkin Radler firm?
24 A As summarized on page 38, yes.
25 Q Now, just in terms of who was working on it and how

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Ackerman-cross/Trabulus


1 much time they put in, you put in 50.1 hours; is that
2 correct?
3 A That's what is recorded there.
4 Q And there were two other attorneys who actually put
5 in more time than you did, in fact, three other attorneys;
6 is that correct, is that Mr. Kardisch, K A R D I S C H, he
7 put in.
8 His billing is 65.3 hours; is that correct?
9 A Yes, as recorded.

10 Q And Ms. Yehuda, Y E H U D A, 52.4 hours; is that
11 correct?
12 A Yes.
13 Q And yesterday you spoke about Mr. Catalanello?
14 A Catalanello.
15 Q Sorry if I mispronounced it, but his time is 89.4
16 hours; is that correct?
17 A Recorded, yes.
18 Q And I think you indicated that sometimes there is
19 time spent that isn't recorded; is that correct?
20 A There is always that possibility.
21 Q Always there is that. But in terms of what was
22 recorded these were recorded; is that correct?
23 A Yes.
24 Q These time records, included in Exhibit 636, contain
25 some fairly detailed indications of what the various

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Ackerman-cross/Trabulus


1 people reported that they did on particular days, both the
2 number of hours, and also the description of who they

3 spoke to and what they spoke about, and so forth; is that
4 fair to say?
5 A Yes.

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